Weekly Qbasic and Qb64 Lesson Topics

This is not much, but here is what I have so far,..it is a idea I have for a "learning Program"....
Any sugestions are welcome..
from Garry

Hi all,
    I see you are comparing what was the user entered to a constant (letters of the alphabet).
Could you post a description of what you want your program to do from start to finish please Garry. This would be our "definition of the problem" with which we would break it down into smaller problem and solve.
OlDosLover.

Hi all,
    Here's a stripped down version of your program Garry. It works except for the exit of the program.
It would probably better to use inkey than input.
OlDosLover.

Hi all,
    Here is a better version that generates random letters that fall downward the screen. If the user misses the letter at bottom of the sceen it continues on. If the user pressed the corrct letter then it prints that.
    This was the first learning program that i wrote for my daughter about 18 years ago. This is the QB64 equivalent.
OlDosLover.

Hello All,
Ok,I may also put a program I have, (for Dos), on Drop Box,
it dosen't run real well,...but it would be a good example,...I am not sure I still have it. It should be ,hopefully later tonight,...I will write a description,...It seems like it is fairly complex, in some ways, but your approach, to break it down,...is good, each stage, probably is not that complicated, I am sure you have seen Clippys, qbasics demo,...I like the "flow", it has, how the first page ,is a index of chapters,..you can either, start at chapt 1, or enter the chapter number....
Then each chapter is also, "pages" or segments,...the only thing I don't particuly like, is he never put in a , "go back" option,...so is one wants to go back to the previous "page" or a previous chapter, the only way is to exit and start again, select the chapter, work your way up to the part you want---
 A similar,...but instead of code, early learning of first, the letters, and numbers,
,simple words, spelling them correctly, and perhaps, toward the end some very basic math,...a small , "music", chapter, where the child can enter the basic notes, and perhaps play a simple tune,..and then of course a simple drawing/paint option,.....Perhaps, it be better, instead of entering a chapter number,  a "click" menu, Letters, Numbers, Words and Spelling, Math, Music, Drawing,... we do have various "draw and paint",. programs,so that would be pretty easy, in away, this is not to bad of a description,....Where is the best place to start ?,...it seems, like the "menu" or index,...Like I mentioned, assumeing the user, is a very young child, and can not hardly read yet,...we will need to also do some "sound tracks",...the idea is, to make it as much possible, something a child, could do, without much if any supervision,.... We have already, been covering alot of the "bits and pieces",...in your lessons , and tuts,.....Unseens GDK, may very well be the better way to go,...for one, the colors, are so much nicer "vivid", etc,....I already have found, it is pretty easy to insert _sndplay ( I think it was, I have sort of forgotten,) but In the catch the Bunny it was real easy to insert the music, useng midi, or wav, it would be relatively easy to make recordings, and put the "voice" in.
 I do have some code that, can make the computer "talk", useing  MS sam,..but the words are not all that clear,...I think recordings would be better.
 I guess this may seem like alot, but there is no hurry---I am still going to take the time, to write, a better description, I probably will have to attach it as a text file, or put it on drop box,......Obviuously, this will take some time, and perhaps, several people, if others get interested,...If we really got ambitous,we could do one ver1, for kindargarden, ages, Later another, more advanced, that also included some very basic codeing lessons, along with, math,...At the moment it almost seems over whelming, and impossible, but this is cause I am a little tired,...I haven't tryd any of your code yet, but will, as soon as I close this, just to explain why I didn't mention any of it,...in this post, I am anxious to see, the one you did for your daughter,...in relation to my grandchildren, and the one about to be born, it will still be a couple of years, before any of them could use this,...So there is lots of time...
from Garry

Hi all,
    From your post i have garnered this as the code idea:

    This is achievable. As to the GDK colors , the GDK uses the same _rgb32(r,g,b) as standard QB64 programs. It may be the choice of colors and the use of many similar individual colors that unseen used to compose a picture. This could be done in GDK. This could also be done in standard QB64 and then converted into the GDK.
    I'd prefer that it be done in standard QB64 and later converted. GDK is always being improved. Unseen is the only one fluent in the library. By having 2 versions (standard and gdk) gives the community a choice. ATM we can break this up into simple sections that get stuck back together to compose the complete program.
    If this is what you envisioned in your mind Garry , then id say you should PM all our members and ask who wants to help. The program could be divided into sections and or code,music,graphics. By keeping this flexable and giving people a choice we may get more support.
OlDosLover.

Thats pretty much it in your summary,..and agree on the GDK,.. I actually like your description, real well,Mine would probably get to long and overly detailed, thus confuseing people, more then discribeing,..,...
----From Garry
Here is the new topic:
New Project, learning program

http://weeklyqbasicandqb64lesson.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,171.msg943.html#msg943

I made the note, everyone is welcome to help (particpate),...but also will do the PMs, later...
from Garry

Hi all,
    Garry id like to do the main screen and main menu part. I have an idea that would work and look good. Id make the menu so that on clicking the relevant menu item the code jumps to that section. The individual programs would slot into this "structure" easily enough. One thing is lets make this version 1 and just get it to work. Better ideas will come about once we have a working program.
Id also suggest version 1 be mostly a text program and leave the fancy graphics to version 2.
OlDosLover.

This sounds good, I still didn't do anything with more description,
but yea,I agree,...Sorry on the delay,replying, actually I thought I had, replied,
last night,...
from garry

I was going back thru this, and allthough I understand some, there is something I can not quite figure out,...
Ok hope I make sense, as it is, if the letter is not correct, it just displays:
LETTER:  and what I was trying to do is make it say "sorry try again" (or somethin like that) if the letter did not match,.. If the correct letter is entered, it dose say:  " Bien,te escribe ,Good You wrote " and a new letter appears , with the LETTER: prompt,...that part is fine,
since this is not a IF statement I caouldnt use ELSE, WHILE and WEND, are new to me.
Thanks From Garry

Hi all,
    While ... Wend is like Do ... Loop. The syntax is
WHILE condition true WEND. So in this case where is written , it means in plain english, While the generated letter does not equal the inputted letter. Which leads to repetition and allows user to select another letter.
    If you want to respond to an incorrect letter then simply add a comparison and message off that comparisson.
OlDosLover.

Thanks a bunch Oldoslover,
 That was a simple one, but it would of taken me hours, looking thru tutorials, and then I might never have found what fits this,...the < > greater then ,less then symbols, are significant of "not equal too " ?
From Garry

Hi all,
    Respectfully if you dont know this then you should research tutorials so you understand it. As programmers we have to use combinations of those symbols to make our programs work. Therefor to read and understand another programmers program you need to know them.
something = something equal
something => something equal or greater than
something =< something equal or less than
something <> something not equal
This stuff should be in the wiki. This is part of the reason you should compose a program description in english. That way you can relate the action wanted into the code that produces that action. Makeing a program work is half the job. Understanding how and why it works is the other half.
OlDosLover.

Hi all,
    Here's an example like im talking about. Anyone should be able to follow the idea and the methods.
Code:

Is this clearer or better?
OlDosLover.

Ok well sorry, all though I did know > is greater then , < is less then ,but no I didnt, know combined <> is not equal too,...Probably thats what I need to do, is just spend all my time looking at the tutorials, and try to figure it, instead of bothering people with "silly" questions,.. I realize most of what I am trying to learn is so basic, that it must seem ridiculess, some of the things I ask about ,sorry.
From Garry

No no offense taken, and I appreciate the efforts  to explain, I though you knew, my math level is of about the 4th grade level, I did read in one tutorial, it said one needs, at least trigonometry, to get any where with programming code. After all said and done, I agree, my best route would be to not only study the tutorials more, but look for some tutorials on symbols and math, Although I am sure most of what you are saying could be understood by someone with algerbra, and a college level of schooling,..for me it is pretty much just numbers and symbols,I don't think I will ever grasp enough of this, for it to be worth yours or anyone elses, time and trouble, to try to explain,...
I was trying to say I did understand that <> is significant to not equal too,...
The rest I don't, all it gave me was a bunch of letters and numbers,...With the above,  that is all I needed,... and thanks,..but anyway, I have given up on tyng to understand all of this,...it is never going to make any sense to, me perhaps, as suggested, studying the tutorials, and maybe some math,..one day,..But until I learn enough, to understand, the answers to my questions, then I best not ask, and if I understand that much, I probably won't need to ask. I don't even know enough to ask a question,...sensibly.
 But thank you very much for all the time, and trouble trying to teach me,...I do appreciate that, even though it was a hopeless task.
from Garry

     That may ot neccesarily be true, but the math is helpful.
    I rewrote your code to this

   

From Garry

Actually this never made much sense to me,..but it might to some one else.